--- icewm-1.3.7/src/default.h.orig	2014-09-19 22:59:24.069636447 +1000
+++ icewm-1.3.7/src/default.h	2014-09-19 22:59:46.930568951 +1000
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
 XIV(bool, miniIconsBottomToTop,                 false)
 XIV(bool, manualPlacement,                      false)
 XIV(bool, smartPlacement,                       true)
-XIV(bool, centerLarge,                          false)
+XIV(bool, centerPlacement,                      false)
 XIV(bool, centerTransientsOnOwner,              true)
 XIV(bool, autoRaise,                            false)
 XIV(bool, delayPointerFocus,                    true)
@@ -233,11 +233,11 @@
     OBV("StrongPointerFocus",                   &strongPointerFocus,            "Always maintain focus under mouse window (makes some keyboard support non-functional or unreliable"),
     OBV("OpaqueMove",                           &opaqueMove,                    "Opaque window move"),
     OBV("OpaqueResize",                         &opaqueResize,                  "Opaque window resize"),
-    OBV("ManualPlacement",                      &manualPlacement,               "Windows initially placed manually by user"),
+    OBV("ManualPlacement",                      &manualPlacement,               "Windows initially placed manually by user (supercedes all other placement options)"),
     OBV("SmartPlacement",                       &smartPlacement,                "Smart window placement (minimal overlap)"),
+    OBV("CenterPlacement",                      &centerPlacement,               "All windows initially centered (supercedes SmartPlacement)"),
     OBV("HideTitleBarWhenMaximized",            &hideTitleBarWhenMaximized,     "Hide title bar when maximized"),
-    OBV("CenterLarge",                          &centerLarge,                   "Center large windows"),
-    OBV("CenterTransientsOnOwner",              &centerTransientsOnOwner,       "Center dialogs on owner window"),
+    OBV("CenterTransientsOnOwner",              &centerTransientsOnOwner,       "Center dialogs on owner window (supercedes CenterPlacement and SmartPlacement)"),
     OBV("MenuMouseTracking",                    &menuMouseTracking,             "Menus track mouse even with no mouse buttons held"),
     OBV("AutoRaise",                            &autoRaise,                     "Auto raise windows after delay"),
     OBV("DelayPointerFocus",                    &delayPointerFocus,             "Delay pointer focusing when mouse moves"),
--- icewm-1.3.7/src/wmmgr.cc.orig	2014-09-19 22:59:24.083636042 +1000
+++ icewm-1.3.7/src/wmmgr.cc	2014-09-20 00:02:51.127696570 +1000
@@ -1239,6 +1239,32 @@
     focusTopWindow();
 }
 
+int YWindowManager::getCenterPlaceX(YFrameWindow *frame, int x, int w) {
+    int mx, my, Mx, My, nx;
+
+    if (centerPlacement) {
+        manager->getWorkArea(frame, &mx, &my, &Mx, &My);
+        nx = (mx + Mx - w) / 2;   /* = mx + (Mx - mx - w) / 2 */
+        if (nx < mx) nx = mx;
+    } else {
+	nx = 0;
+    }
+    return nx;
+}
+
+int YWindowManager::getCenterPlaceY(YFrameWindow *frame, int y, int h) {
+    int mx, my, Mx, My, ny;
+
+    if (centerPlacement) {
+        manager->getWorkArea(frame, &mx, &my, &Mx, &My);
+        ny = (my + My - h) / 2;   /* = my + (My - my - h) / 2 */
+        if (ny < my) ny = my;
+    } else {
+	ny = 0;
+    }
+    return ny;
+}
+
 void YWindowManager::getNewPosition(YFrameWindow *frame, int &x, int &y, int w, int h, int xiscreen) {
     if (centerTransientsOnOwner && frame->owner() != 0) {
         x = frame->owner()->x() + frame->owner()->width() / 2 - w / 2;
@@ -1246,22 +1272,11 @@
     } else if (smartPlacement) {
         getSmartPlace(true, frame, x, y, w, h, xiscreen);
     } else {
-
-        static int lastX = 0;
-        static int lastY = 0;
+        static int lastX = getCenterPlaceX(frame, x, w);
+	static int lastY = getCenterPlaceY(frame, y, h);
 
         getCascadePlace(frame, lastX, lastY, x, y, w, h);
     }
-    if (centerLarge) {
-        int mx, my, Mx, My;
-        manager->getWorkArea(frame, &mx, &my, &Mx, &My);
-        if (w > (Mx - mx) / 2 && h > (My - my) / 2) {
-            x = (mx + Mx - w) / 2;   /* = mx + (Mx - mx - w) / 2 */
-            if (x < mx) x = mx;
-            y = (my + My - h) / 2;   /* = my + (My - my - h) / 2 */
-            if (y < my) y = my;
-        }
-    }
 }
 
 void YWindowManager::placeWindow(YFrameWindow *frame,
--- icewm-1.3.7/src/wmmgr.h.orig	2014-09-20 00:16:42.035243520 +1000
+++ icewm-1.3.7/src/wmmgr.h	2014-09-20 00:17:43.884043254 +1000
@@ -101,6 +101,8 @@
     void tryCover(bool down, YFrameWindow *frame, int x, int y, int w, int h,
                   int &px, int &py, int &cover, int xiscreen);
     bool getSmartPlace(bool down, YFrameWindow *frame, int &x, int &y, int w, int h, int xiscreen);
+    int getCenterPlaceX(YFrameWindow *frame, int x, int w);
+    int getCenterPlaceY(YFrameWindow *frame, int y, int h);
     void getNewPosition(YFrameWindow *frame, int &x, int &y, int w, int h, int xiscreen);
     void placeWindow(YFrameWindow *frame, int x, int y, int cw, int ch, bool newClient, bool &canActivate);